https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/362-six-months-of-war
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hostages
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comprising with Jihadists?
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How so many intelligent people can’t discern the moral hierarchy
- People that use own children as human shields or worse bombs
- Kill their own daughters for the crime of getting raped
- Care about violence done to a book instead of whole societies
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Jihadists worse than the Nazi’s
- Ideology is worst
- Nazism + Expectation of Paradise
- Didn’t use their children as human shields
- Didn’t give guards in Aushwitz a belief system that made them feel religious ecstasy herding people into gas chambers
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Civilization vs. its enemies
- Support for Israel born from:
- Connection to Civilization
- Norms of open societies
- Individual Rights
- Freedom of thought
- Secularism
- Rationality
- Basic decency
- Support for Israel born from:
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Lost of innocent lives in Gaza
- There was a ceasefire on Oct 6 and Gaza was getting more humanitarian aid than most other countries
- Could of returned hostages
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Everyone has forgotten the hostages
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No condemnation for Hamas, focused on Israel
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Everyone thinks they know the solution to IP
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IP conflict is like catnip to people; don’t care about other conflicts
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In the oppressor vs oppressed lens; IP conflict is the bottom and America is at the top; its a conflict that excites people to have opinions about
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Argument that why Americas are so fascinated about the IP conflict is that Americans sell weapons to them
- 60 Knowledge/60.3 Politics/60.3.2 - Far Right/Misc Notes
- What about America selling to Saudi, that 400k killed in Yemen?
- Saudi largest buyer of American weaponry?
- Where are the protests?
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Murray talks about having “skin in the game”
- This idea makes sense, you’re opinion change when you have rockets aimed at your home and you have to run into bomb shelters daily
- The idea of giving up the West Bank as an outsider as so simple and not understanding the fear
- The reality that you live in a country that is constantly under attack
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Triple standard of Israel
- Wanting plans for after instead of destroying the terrorist state
- “Moral probity”
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Moral disparity of the two sides — glaring sin of omission from whole world
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This is not resistance, this is barbarism
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Parsing the history of IP is a fools game
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More important to see what each group will do if they had the power to do
- Hamas has said they want to repeat Oct 7th again and again
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Hezbollah has caused 10,000s of Israel’s to be displaced due to rocket attacks
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Was the Iron Dome a mistake?
- Got used to running to a bomb shelter and living with rocket attacks
- Why to be clever ways to hide?
- How is this a way to live?
- After giving up land for peace
- No other nation would put up with this
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The way counter-protestors at Palestinian protests get assaulted and then arrested by police
- “Hamas are terrorists”
- “How many gay bars are in Gaza?”
- “There was a ceasefire on Oct 6th”
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How on Oct 7th, Hamas killed Israeli Muslims the same
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UK Parliament are literally scared of Jihadis