Filed with 60.11 Religion · Related: 60.9 Philosophy · Political Philosophy (MOC)
Daniel Haqiqatjou Arguments
Opening
- Attempts to unionize with Christianity against Israel/Jews
- Israel benefits from Christian vs. Muslim genocide
- Claims Israel is killing Christians

- Secular Liberal Values
- Individual freedom
- Gender equality
- Sexual autonomy
- Scientific Progress
- Economic Advancement
- If you judge Islam by Traditional Values, Islam beats Christianity. If you judge by Secular Liberal Values, Christianity comes out on top.
- Christianity since the Enlightenment has been reformed with liberal values
- Christianity is more open to reform that Islam isnt







- Christian apologists code-switch

- If these are biologically-rooted, then why does someone need religion to value marriage, family?

- Muslims value tradition more than Christians



- Religious Freedom in Muslim Countries
- You find in Muslims countries the people are at severe risk for NOT being religious, therefore suppressing the true views
















- Sexual Violence in Muslim Countries
- Short version: using the best global data (WHO / UN system), Muslim-majority regions show higher rates of physical and/or sexual violence by male partners than Western high-income countries, but the gap is not infinite (think roughly about 1 in 3 women vs about 1 in 4–5 in the West). For non-partner sexual violence (stranger/relative etc.), global differences are smaller and the data from many Muslim-majority states are thin and likely understate the problem.


- Carbon dating confirms Quran traces to Muhammad
- Bible evolved by layers of editing, reflects teachings of Paul more than Jesus






- Mixing Traditional and Secular values doesn’t mix. Traditional gets abandoned.



- Moral Progress Example: Liberating women by telling them they don’t have a moral duty to serve their husbands
- Scientific Progress Example: Inventing AI companies for the elderly so you don’t have to talk to grandpa
- Progress can seriously damage society.
- Religion, Family and Nation are weak in U.S. even though it has high GDP



Additional
- IQ higher due to the Flynn effect
- IQ related to inter-sex breeding, races have different IQs
- Atheist IQ higher than Christians
- IQ not the end all be all
- Tradition Values > IQ
- Higher IQ -> Secularism
- Transhumanism going to destroy the human race
- AI, Uploading conscious to the cloud, Taylor made babies
Andrew Wilson Arguments
Opening: Inbred Populations
- 1400 years
- 8th - 15th Centuries
- First cousin marriage
- Muslims double cousin marriages or higher i.e. India, Lebanon
- Pakistan: 65% cousin marriages
- Saudi Arabia: 50-58% IQ: 76
- UAE: 54% IQ: 82
- Iran: 40% IQ: 80
- Research: How Christianity stopped cousin marriages
- Sub-Sahara Africa: All Muslim, 60% First Cousin marriages in Somalia
- Rat people of Pakistan
- Harmful genes compound
- Sub-90 IQ Nations have problems modernizing
- Islam must bank of the benevolence of global Christianity to not exterminate them since Christian nations are so much more advanced
Additional
- So having a low IQ means I’m going to have better ethics?